Book of mormon out a hat

In the book of mormon, broadway gets treated to one of its funniest and most irreverent broadway musicals of all time. As a mormon, did you know about joseph smith using the. If it is maybe the profit, russell m nelson, could perform that magic trick again and confound all of us doubters who have lost our testiphonies. Bill mckeever details how exactly the book of mormon was translated. Witnesses said smith placed the urim and thummim in his hat while he was translating. David whitmer said, regarding smiths translation of the book of mormon.

When mormon missionaries properly called latter day saints or simply lds come to your door, they will often offer a free copy of the book of mormon and tell you about its author, joseph smith. Mormon and moroni, the book says, had abridged earlier historical records from other sets of metal plates. Joseph smithseer stonesrock in hat used for book of mormon translation. Book of mormon dictated out of a hat ars technica openforum.

Book of mormontranslationthe interpreters, seer stone, hat. Mar 19, 2018 mason allred and mark ashurstmcgee discuss the various historical accounts of the book of mormon translation process, including accounts of joseph smith using a seer stone to translate the. It not only shows the weakness of many criticisms of the book of mormon, but builds a bold case of evidences that support the book of mormon as an authentic, ancient, divinely inspired document. Lots of answers here with an incredible amount of evidence.

The book of mormon will speak for itself when the person studying it does so with an open heart. Later, smith told his mother he had taken the plates out of the chest, left the empty chest under. No matter what youre looking for or where you are in the world, our global marketplace of sellers can help you find unique and affordable options. A forum for exmormons and others who have been affected by mormonism to share news, commentary, and comedy about the mormon church. Translating the book of mormon, proceedings of the 2011 fair conference august 2011. In fact, the book itself apologizes for the deficiencies of the people writing it. Joseph smith said that the book of mormon was the most correct of any book on.

I will now give you a description of the manner in which the book of mormon was translated. Firsthand witness accounts of the translation process. Joseph is looking directly at the plates without using a translating instrument. Book of mormon origins and the historical record, interpreter. Did joseph smith use a hat during the translation of the. The book of mormon is a book that latter day saints believe is the word of god along with the bible the original english version of the book of mormon was published in march 1830 by a man named joseph smith, jr. Historical prattle or competent testimony book of mormon. Since 1830, the book of mormon was translated from gold plates. David whitmer said, joseph smith would put the seer stone into a hat, and put.

How exactly did joseph smith translate the book of mormon. But until then, the key is to provide a logical case for the book of mormon in order to help open their hearts and brains to the remote possibility that it could be true. Joseph smith translates the book of mormon using a hat in a 2003 south park episode. In 2015, the church released photographs of the seer stone believed to have been used in the translation of the book of mormon. New church video explains joseph smiths seer stones book of. The publication history of the book of mormon bruce satterfield department of religious education, brigham young university idaho this article appeared in the church news, jan. Roger nicholson, the spectacles, the stone, the hat, and the book. Joseph smith put the seer stone into a hat, and put his face in the hat, drawing it closely around his face to exclude the light. Made it through byu, institute, seminary, and a mission. Mason allred and mark ashurstmcgee discuss historical accounts of the book of mormon translation process, including joseph smith using a seer stone and accounts of joseph smith using urim and thummim.

The top ten most glorious hats of the book of mormon. So when do members hear the official head in hat with seer. Mason allred and mark ashurstmcgee discuss the various historical accounts of the book of mormon translation process, including accounts of joseph smith using a seer stone to translate the. Smiths usual procedure was to place the stone in a white stovepipe hat, put. When i used to debate this stuff with mormons on alt. Did joseph smith use a hat during the translation of the book. None of this meant that joseph smith was infallible or even that the book of mormon was infallible. A twentyfirst century believers view of the book of mormon translation, interpreter. Even joseph himself noted that he was sought out by josiah stowell stoal to. But the miracle of its existence remains the keystone of our religion even today.

These facts are now officially confirmed in the churchs december 20 book of mormon translation essay. According to latter day saint theology, seer stones were believed to have been used by. A piece of something resembling parchment would appear, and on that appeared the writing. Oct 24, 2014 this tutorial shows the historical facts about the way that joseph smith translated the book of mormon. Much can be known about the coming forth of the english text of the book of mormon through a careful study of.

Is the book of mormon and gold plates just a huge fraud, just. Both books contain gods guidance as revealed to prophets, as well as religious histories of different civilizations. The scottsboro boys got 12, anything goes received nine and how to. In fact, lds apostle neal maxwell, who authored the article, quotes apostle orson pratt from 1874 as saying that smith relied less. Seer stones and the translation of the book of mormon. No attempt by the artist is made to depict the urim and thummim. David wittmer one of the three witnesses of the book of mormon writes in his book addressed to all believers in christ telling us how joseph smith placed the seer stone into a hat to translate the book of mormon. While the bible is written by and about the people in the land of israel and surrounding areas and takes place from the creation of the world until shortly after the death of jesus christ. The scottsboro boys got 12, anything goes received nine and how to succeed in. The church recently released an essay summarizing what we know about the process of translating the book of mormon. Dirkmaat, firsthand witness accounts of the translation process, in the coming forth of the book of mormon. Joseph smithseer stonesrock in hat used for book of. Ive always been fascinated with the seer stones maybe i just want to believe in magic. This is how book of mormon central explains the translation.

Most adherents to the latter day saint movement view the book as a work of inspired scripture. The book is more of a summary or introduction to the topic rather than a fulltreatment. We knew that the shows creators, trey parker and matt stone south park and. Book of mormon witnesses, seer stones, and a hat eve out. In fact, faith is magical, so i have no problem with. Whats so remarkable about this part of the translation of the book of mormon is the breakneck pace of the work the translation of the text during this time was completed in an astounding 65 to 72 working days based on the number of pages in the 1830 edition of the book of mormon. He translated much of the book of mormon by placing the seer stone in a hat to block out the ambient light, then proceeded to simply recite. May 03, 2011 the nominations for the 2011 tony awards are out. It seems after reading these posts that the only possible answer is that the book of mormon happened just like joseph and others claim. Jul 01, 2011 clearly not a professional writer, judy robertson offers a glimpse of her life and the tension she felt as a member of the church of later day saints which are not what one might expect from the glowing portrayal of life in the mormon community a casual glance would suggest. According to these accounts, joseph placed either the interpreters or the seer stone in a hat, pressed his face into the hat to block out extraneous light, and read. Book of mormon index of topics mormonism research ministry. See neal rappleye, idle and slothful strange stories.

Is the book of mormon and gold plates just a huge fraud. According to these accounts, joseph placed either the interpreters or the seer stone in a hat, pressed his face into the hat to block out extraneous light, and read aloud the english words that appeared on the instrument. The book of mormon reader 1985 and book of mormon stories 1997 both replace this scene with one of joseph and his scribe sitting at a table in the open, with the plates clearly in view. Seer stones are mentioned in the book of mormon in the book of mosiah. Mormons react to firstever photograph of joseph smiths seer stone. The book of mormon is the word of god, like the bible. Why did the book of mormon come forth as a miracle. This book is a well written defense of the book of mormon. It is clear that elder nelson is quite aware of the stone and the hat. As a mormon, did you know about joseph smith using the stone. Joseph smith would place the stone into a hat and then put his face into the hat in such a manner so as to block out the ambient light in the room. Book of mormon central evidences of the book of mormon. The church later admitted these facts in its october 2015 ensign, where they include a photograph of the actual rock that joseph smith used to place in his hat for the book of mormon translation. When joseph placed this seer stone in a hat to block out light, the words of the lord appeared on the stone or on parchment and.

Did joseph smith use a hat during the translation of the book of. Mar 07, 2016 in the book of mormon, broadway gets treated to one of its funniest and most irreverent broadway musicals of all time. It was then that i reached out to my lds friends and told them about how i wanted to join and all that. Do mormons really believe joseph smith read the book of mormon out of a hat. A seer stone and a hat translating the book of mormon. I know nothing about mormonism and i know south park tends to exaggerate and twist things, so i just want to make sure that this is accurate. I think the face in hat shift the book of mormon away from translation to revelation. Using a hat to shield out the light as he focused on his seer stone, joseph could not have read from a manuscript because, as he once told martin harris who had. No doubt they understand that most people would balk in accepting the book of mormon if it was known to have been translated by using a magical rock and a hat.

Parker and stone later carried over many themes from the episode for their musical the book of mormon, which opened on broadway in 2011. Interestingly enough, an article in the january 1997 lds church publication ensign leaves out any mention of the hat and deemphasizes the seer stone. Smith, they will say, translated the book of mormon from golden plates he dug up in a hill in new york in the early 1800s. According to latter day saint belief, the golden plates are the source from which joseph smith said he translated the book of mormon. Smith claimed the angel moroni, a prophet in the book of mormon, directed him in the 1820s to a. Photo courtesy of the church of jesus christ of latterday saints book of mormon videos, 1 nephi 12, season 1, episode 8, depicts lehi, his wife, sariah, and their family as they sail to the. Book of mormon written through a peep stone in a hat issue date.

The gold plates were never used and joseph used a seer stone he had found in a well to translate. Lets say that joseph smith wrote the book of mormon. This tutorial shows the historical facts about the way that joseph smith translated the book of mormon. Book of mormon central points out this would have made it impossible for joseph smith to read or copy anything while looking in the hat. Their screens are very difficult to read out in the sunlight and need to.

Dear gramps, i would like to know the exact way the prophet joseph translated the book of mormon. I was taught that the seer stones helped translate the golden plates but i never heard anything about a hat. To overcome clear evidence that joseph smith translated the entire book of mormon with a seer stone in a hat instead of the official story about spectacles attached to a breastplate, apologist roger nicholson has argued that smith alternated between instruments even after the loss of the 116 pagesthat he often put the spectacles into his hat. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Seer stones and the translation of the book of mormon youtube. Joseph smith would put the seer stone into a hat, and put his face in the hat, drawing it closely around his face to exclude the light. When joseph placed this seer stone in a hat to block out light, the words of the lord. The book of mormon musical official london website about. Is it possible joseph smith really just pulled the book of mormon out of a black top hat. The musical the book of mormon got the most nominations with 14.

Hello toni, the church recently released an essay summarizing what we know about the process of translating the book of mormon. For instance, i read that at first he used a seer stone instead of the urim and thummim which he placed in his hat and buried his face into the hat to block out the light. Despite all that the book of mormon prophets apparently went through to. This image is available for web and print publication. The most common belief of adherents is that promoted by joseph smith, who said he translated ancient golden plates inscribed by prophets. Book of mormon written through a peep stone in a hat. Bill mckeever shows how science is not a friend to the book of mormon story. The video also points out how quickly the book of mormon was translated as another evidence of its truthfulness. Book of mormontranslationthe interpreters, seer stone. A little information on smiths stone in a hat date. I want to address joseph smiths seer stone, his hat, the three witnesses, emma smiths witness and elizabeth ann whitmer cowderys witness.

Book of mormon witnesses, seer stones, and a hat eve out of. What david whitmer said about the seer stone and hat, 1887. I just watched the south park episode all about the mormons and i dont think ive ever laughed so hard. All about mormons was released on dvd along with the rest of the seventh season on march 21, 2006. I can barely see the hat in this photo of the book of. Do mormons really believe joseph smith read the book of. As it turns out, this is not a unique mention of these items within church publications. Etsy is the home to thousands of handmade, vintage, and oneofakind products and gifts related to your search. I can barely see the hat in this photo of the book of mormon. Septemberoctober 1999 evidence is continuing to surface that joseph smith, founder of mormonism, had built quite a reputation as a local magician in rural new york prior to his supposed discovery of the golden plates and the translation of them to the book of mormon. Joseph smithseer stonesrock in hat used for book of mormon. Dec 02, 2017 according to these accounts, joseph placed either the interpreters or the seer stone in a hat, pressed his face into the hat to block out extraneous light, and read aloud the english words that appeared on the instrument. Eyewitness accounts clearly conflict with the image the lds church is currently attempting to portray. How facts about the translation of the book of mormon.